Showing posts with label Classical Indians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Classical Indians. Show all posts

Wednesday, 17 February 2021

From GeorgeS - The Shrine - 1:30 Indian Priest, Shaman - (30 points)

    Finally find some time to finish something for "The Shrine"..

   Not a Christian theme but sure religious one, this Native American Shaman would pass me through..

  One more figure from my "Cherilea" 60mm Indians set witch is still around my table...
Painted as stated before, in a vintage "Toy Soldier" style with some realism elements. One more figure for my collection under the project " paint one of each.."!
 



I just noticed that I didn't paint the earrings!! Oh god!!

 That's all for now. Hope you like my "Priest"

'till next time..

Keep Up The Brushes!


Wednesday, 6 January 2021

From George S - Cherilea 60mm Indians Repainting project - 20 points

    Hi there, two figures just for points for today. These are 60mm figures but you can count them as, classic 54mm scale for scoring. 

   I have cleaned up and prepared 11 of these figures in order to repaint-remodel them for my collection.
Finally the first two of them are ready. I choose fancy colours for them in order to look more like toy soldiers of the 60-70s( as they actually are!) , than realistic models. Although I couldn't keep my self from adding some more realistic elements.
   The base is painted as closer to their original green colour and the pallet of chosen colours is randomly selected from small paint remaining on the figures before cleanning up.
   Of course the skin on these figures  wasn't painted in their original state but I couldn't just leave it this way..
 
 Check out my blog to see more pictures of the original state and the preparation some weeks before..

    9 more to come....Hope you like them :)
 



 
 
 

'Till next time....

Keep Up The Brushes!!

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What a great project George - I enjoyed reading more about it at your blog too. A wonderful thing to breath such life into 50ish year old toy soldiers. The colours are very thematic and the skin tones are great!

20 points on the board and I'm looking forward to watching this project progress.

Cap'n Wednesday

Tuesday, 5 January 2021

From IanS - 15mm Ancient Indian HC (48 points)

    Ancient Indian HC (x12 15mm Figures)





Back again so soon, victim #5. My, my, you are a glutton for punishment!

Nice cavalry - that will be 48 points added to your tally.

Tamsin

Friday, 20 March 2020

From JonathanO: Hawkins' Hill - 15mm Classical Indian Bowmen (78 points)


I really struggled on the climb up Hawkins' Hill and my journey around Challenge Island has been less than rapid.  From the hill I could see an Ancient Indian Army starting to gather.  The first to appear was a unit of bowmen.







With the route down the hill and towards the Snow Lord's Peak now blocked, I decided to take the less traveled path towards O'Grady's Gulch.

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These are Forged In Battle 15mm miniatures.  I had over 100 infantry originally primed and ready for Challenge VII .  I managed to get this unit of 24 finished for 48 points plus the 30 bonus.  The rest are very close to completion, but may not quite make it for tomorrow's deadline.  However, I do hope to post another short report or two before the end of the Challenge tomorrow.






Classical Indians seem to have been a rather popular choice of army over the last few Challenges. You've done a great job on these archers.

TamsinP

Sunday, 2 February 2020

From LeeH - Classical Indian Elephants - (120 Points)

I have been looking forward to painting these for a long time. The massed elephants of Poros' army is such an evocative image, I couldn't resist buying this army. Everything I have painted up to now has effectively been painted to justify painting these beasts of war.



The Elephant could perform a number of useful military functions (clearing obstacles, fording rivers and battering down the walls of strongpoints) but it was its prowess and the phycological impact of these massive animals that saw them favoured as beasts of war. In Ancient India the army was divided into four types; Infantry, Cavalry, Chariots and Elephants. As I mentioned in my post about the Chariots these had once been the prestige weapon of war but had started to be replaced by the Elephant as the dominant wing of most armies. Magadha (mid-4th century BCE - 321 BCE) had about 3,000 elephants while the Mauryan and Gupta empires with figures of anything up to 9,000 animals in its command. King Poros, at the Battle of Hydaspes (326 BCE) faced Alexander with a mere 200 Elephants but this still sounds like a terrifying sight. It's possible that facing these animals, and knowing that larger armies lay ahead, was partly responsible for the army eventually refusing to continue with Alexanders invasion of India.




The Arthashastra of Kautilya (c. 4th century BCE), gives a lot of information on different kinds of elephants, their training, and their conduct in war. Their main use in battle was their ability to crush enemy foot soldiers, scare away horses, and trample chariots. The psychological impact of these creatures cannot be underestimated, however, their practical success has been hotly debated for centuries. Wounded or dying elephants could as easily trample their own troops as enemies. And an elephant running amok is as uncontrollable as it is unpredictable. Royal elephants were specially trained and prized for control but if the beast decided to run away it's riders - including any commanders - would be carried away with them, come what may. Despite these risks, the Elephant was still a prized weapon of war and at the Hydaspes, King Poros fought bravely from the back of his mount, even after the defeat of his army was inevitable.




Elephants could be provided with armour but by the 4th Century BC they were often covered in massive rugs called hatthatthara which would provide quite effective protection from arrows. As Poros would find, these were less effective against 18 foot Sarisa pikes and well-disciplined troops. From about this period the Mauryan kingdoms used three riders, all archers, with two shooting.




Points wise these should net me about a hundred and six points - 26 Elephants, 77 Crew and 32 foot troops as escorts. With the Elephants finished I have completed everything I had planned for this army, so I guess a picture of the whole lot is in order? Here's my Army of Poros at the Hydaspes. They don't currently have anyone to fight as I haven't started collecting the figures I need for the corresponding Macedonian army... maybe something to consider for Challenge XI ?!?



It seems a shame to put these away in a drawer so I think I'll buy myself a special display case and get these fella's out where I can enjoy them.

Holy heck that's a lot of Heffalumps Lee, excellently painted.  This Classical Indian Army and been a favourite of mine through the challenge and I'm thrilled to minion this post.  Excellent work again, love the bright colours and the painted shields on the accompanying infantry.  And the close ups show just how tiny and delicately done the details are, especially  on the pachyderm riders

Your full army looks the bomb all lined up, far too good to lock away in a drawer.  My eyes are too old to do a head count on this horde Lee, so I'll go with your figures.  But I'm rounding it up to 120 for all the details.

Wednesday, 22 January 2020

From LeeH - Classical Indian Heavy Chariots (84 Points)

I have been looking forward to painting these Classical Indian Chariots since I bought them months ago. I knew they would be challenging to work on and they have certainly tested my patience - and my eyesight - more than any 6mm units I have done before. Despite the work involved, I am very happy with how these turned out and I can't wait to get them on the games table. 



There is evidence that Chariots had been in use in India for centuries before the arrival of Alexanders Greeks. Epic stories tell of the great hero's going into battle in chariots and for a long period, it was considered the elite arm of Indian armies. However, by the fourth century BC, they were being superseded by the Elephant and by the time of the Battle of the Hydaspes leaders such as King Poros went into battle astride these massive beasts of war. The Chariot was still an important and prestigious arm of the military but its heyday was over.



Much of the visual information I have gathered suggests that Indian War Chariots were highly painted vehicles, many with umbrellas or canopies over the occupants (probably removed during battle). Chariots came in a wide variety of sizes, from single man vehicles through to massive constructions supposedly capable of carrying six occupants. I have chosen the four-man variety and all are painted in bright colours.



Constructed to be light but strong they were mostly leather over a timber framework. They are recorded as being highly decorated with bells, animal skins and flags. The wheels were usually fairly small with up to sixteen spokes and had a metal (probably iron) tyre. The chariots, even the larger ones, had a single pole and usually, only the inner pair of horses were yoked. The outer horses were connected by side traces but these would have been needed to carry six crew and all their fighting equipment. One description of Poros' chariots says they had six crew but this may be a miscounting, including escorting infantry with a typical crew of four. These models have two crew armed with bows while the 'drivers' have Javelins. 



I have been looking forward to painting these for a while but decided early on that I would treat these and the Elephants that are coming next as my reward for getting through the 'drudgery' on the infantry and cavalry. I use that word advisedly because once I get past the initial inertia at the start of a project, I enjoy painting all of it, including the less glamorous units! These chariots, however, could never be described as unglamorous. 



There are six units here which include 12 Chariots, 48 crew and 48 horses which should earn me 60 points. I've also done a couple of command chariots, based individually which should net a further ten points. With the Chariots complete its now time for me to focus on the Elephants and I expect these to be just as spectacular and an even greater riot of colour.



Spectacular work on the wee blighters Lee! However, you've made a bit of a mistake on your points claim - chariots are clearly vehicles, so that brings your total up to 84 points!

TamsinP

Sunday, 12 January 2020

From LeeH - Indian Cavalry (72 Points)

After several terrain entries, I decided it was time for me to stop procrastinating and make some progress with my 6mm Classical Indian army. I have already submitted some archers and javelinmen which make up the bulk of my infantry and now it was time to get started on some of the more colourful units in the army. First off the production line are the Cavalry. From what I have read Indian Cavalry were fairly low-status troops and certainly didn't represent the wealthy elite as in many European armies of the time. However, that doesn't mean they weren't colourful and I have really enjoyed painting these (once I got started!). Once again I have referred back to the work of Duncan Head but I have also been hunting down lots of visual reference material from the inter-web and my much more modest book collection.



The Indian Cavalry at the Battle of the Hydaspes were completely outmatched by the Macedonians facing them. For a start, they wore little or no armour protection apart from the shields. The Cavalry were also outnumbered, especially when Alexanders feint attack on the Indian flank drew off some of the Chariots that were positioned with the Cavalry. The soft ground of the battlefield, made worse by heavy rains, would have impeded both armies but the effectiveness of the Chariots would have been severely impaired by the mud and made the cavalry clash all the more significant to the eventual outcome of the battle. 



As with all my 6mm projects I start with a brown primer. I find that this works well because it fills the gaps between equipment and clothing while remaining light enough that the details of the figure can be seen when painting. Black undercoats at this scale just seem to suck up all the ambient light and it feels like your trying to paint detail on a shadow! I then work my way through all the elements of the figure and block paint as neatly as possible. I'll usually start with the face, arms and legs, them do the armour or cloaths and then move on to weapons and lastly shields. The neater you do this stage the better the final unit will look. Once I have block painted the various elements of the figures I use a dark brown ink wash to add the required shading (I use a Winsor and Newton calligraphy ink called Peat Brown). Really that's all there is to it, 6mm really is that easy.



There are four units of Cavalry here, each with 18 figures per base (72 in total). The only question that remains is what to work on next? I'm tempted by the Elephants but I think I may leave these till last. If I'm honest, I'm painting this army purely because of the vast number of Elephants, so I think I'll use these as my reward for working through everything else. So that means my next project will be the Chariots. I have already been through the nightmare that was their assembly (VERY fiddly when they are 6mm!!), so now I can just focus on the fun of painting them.

From MilesR: These look great and I cant wait to see them fight against your greeks.  When assembling tiny metal parts i use a tiny spot of greenstuff to bold the wheels on while the glue sets.  It has saved me from gluing my fingers together countless times.  Please not I do not say "prevented"

Wednesday, 1 January 2020

From LeeH - Pauravan Indian Javalinmen (72 Points)

Last week I submitted eight bases of infantry/Bowmen for my 4th Century BCE Indian Army and today its the turn of the rest of the infantry, this time Javalinmen. I'm not really sure they can be described as Javelinmen though as these troops carried a weapon that was more akin to a spear than a throwing weapon. 4 Cubits long (about 6ft) with a cane or bamboo haft and a leaf-shaped metal head. These infantrymen also carried a long cane or hide shield, nearly as long as the wielder but not as broad providing a limited degree of protection. 




I've really struggled to find any pictorial sources for these troops online (or elsewhere for that matter) so the only description I have doesn't mention if their standards were coloured or not. I have decided to give each unit a different banner so they can be differentiated but if I find any better information at a later date I can easily repaint the standards. 



As with the bowmen, the 'uniform' of these troops consisted of a white cotton high waisted 'kilt' and sandles, so these were pretty easy to paint. My method makes short work of this scale, block painting the various items of equipment and then applying a generous ink wash (W&N Peat Brown calligraphy ink to be precise). Then four coats of W&N spray varnish to seal everything and protect the paintwork from the rough handling they will get on the games table.


This is four units of 36 infantry, so 144 foot figures in total which will earn me a smart 72 points. I've had a productive opening to this years Challenge but I'm back to work tomorrow so I expect productivity to drop a bit over the coming days. On the whole though, I'm very happy with my position as I'm comfortably ahead of my weekly target and have bought myself a bit of breathing space for the coming weeks.


That is more fine 6mm goodness Lee - the rough handling on the gaming table will be Ray running away i guess? - 72pts it is!

Thursday, 26 December 2019

From LeeH - Pauravan Indian Longbowmen (144 points)

I'm fascinated by the story of Alexander the Great and have been since I was a kid. Over the years I have read plenty of books about this giant of history and have long been fascinated by the fact that these Greeks made it all the way to India in a time when the sub-continent was largely unknown outside of myth to most Europeans. I've been toying with the idea of building a Classical Indian Army for a long time but other projects have kept me busy. Now, at last, I'm ready to make it a reality. I'm not sure if I'll ever get to game with this army, but I'm looking forward to painting it none the less. The order of battle I have gone for broadly corresponds to that fielded by King Poros at the Battle of the Hydaspes and that means lots and lots of bowmen.



It's worth noting that most of the information I have gathered regarding this army has come from the WRG publication The Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars by Duncan Head. However, I have also tried to refer to original source materials such as the translated works of Arian wherever possible. The interweb has made this process much easier of course and I have been able to track down magazine articles and other sources as well. Few Indian sources survive and I have struggled to find the translated versions, although I will continue looking (and suggestions are welcome!). What we do know of Northern India in the 4th century BCE was that it was divided into many small tribal monarchies and that war between them was probably common. 



Indian Infantry wore sandals and a simple high waisted kilt, usually made of white cotton. The longbow was probably as long as the later English Longbow but made of Bamboo; it's unclear how powerful they would have been in comparison. Arrian suggests they were very powerful but I have not been able to find more contemporary sources to corroborate this. The bow was strung with hemp or sinew and given the damp conditions prevalent in this region for much of the year its hard to say how effective these weapons would have been. The arrows were 4ft 6in long and made of cane or reed. The real strength of these units was probably not the weapon so much as the quantity of firepower that could be directed at an enemy that would normally be as lightly protected as those firing.




The core of the Army of King Poros at the Hydaspes was the Longbowmen and I have opted for eight units of these - a total of 288 infantry figures which should earn me 144 points and get me firmly started towards my target. 

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It's fabulous to see you get back into your 6mm groove, Lee, and what a terrific project to gear-up for this year's Challenge. These chaps look to be your 'typical' high standard, all massed up for maximum visual appeal - lovely stuff. I can imagine that these fellows would have put up a ferocious storm of reed arrows - it must have looked very intimidating.

These fellas will give you a very tidy 144 points. Beautiful work Lee!

-Curt 


Tuesday, 8 January 2019

From MartinC - Quite a Lot of Indians (386 pts)

The Christmas holiday has ended and I've had a very restful week of shopping and painting. I've been charging through the Christmas Classical Indians.

First up are 3 units of cavalry.

Another basic paint job but more colourful loincloths and tunics - I assumed these guys were richer.

The streamer banner is cut from a 28mm Numidian standard. The writing on the shield says horse in Sandskrit. Makes them look a bit arabic but I've been practicing my Sandskrit. OK I've been using an online translator and finding the word that was easiest to paint.

Another unit

Still says horse. I have to say Sandskrit looks beautiful and IF I was a lingusit I would learn it. As it is I can barely master English

And another one. 


There are 4 main types of troops in an Indian army, Infantry (archers and warriors), Cavalry, Chariots and Elephants.
The 4 horse chariots have a crew of 6. More a cart than a chariot

This one is on a double sized base and like last weeks elephants more of a practice. The Sandskirt says chariot - my verbal imagination is kinda thingy


I have 4 more of these to paint

 Obviously the elephants are the coolest and I have painted may


These 4 have javelin armed crew. The painting is better than on last weeks

Again a went for the Sandskrit - my freehand designs weren't fab sand I was running out of ideas. This side says Elephant 

This side say various things like huge, massive and fat 

2 more elephants with bow armed crew and a king with a howdah

More slightly insulting elephant size descriptions and the king's one says king!


Finally a load of javelin/spear armed infantry with 5 to a base. Boring to paint


Another bit of a Numidian banner

So I have painted loads.

36 cavalry @ 4pts each = 144 
7 elephants - these were 15pts each = 105
50 infantry@2pts each = 100
1 x 4 horse chariot with 6 crew = 8+4x2+6x2 = 28ish
Grand total = 377.

I more week and I've done the Indians, although I need to buy 9 more figures - which is annoying
With the bonus round that takes me past my 1000 pt target so lets up it to 3000.



Crikey Martin, your really testing my maths skilz (of which I have  none!). What a whopper of an entry. I'm really looking forward to seeing this army arrayed for battle at the end of the Challenge. 

So Points wise... I concur with your calculation on the Cavalry and Infantry, but I think your selling yourself short on the Nellies. I'm scoring these as 112 points (7x8pts treating the elephants as Vehicles, plus 21 crew for 42 points and I'm adding another 14 for the hand decorated blankets, 1 per side). Finally the Chariot, I can't fault your logic on the points for these but I'm throwing in a couple extra because this must have been a beast to assemble! 

If my mathmagics adds up that comes to a grand total of 386 points! Well done.